Come Zigany – Countess Mariza – Gipsy-violin – new research on relation of Gipsy music with Indian Raga – BBWV 137 – BBWV 139

Here comes after 3 years other work in other fields of study my next music-writing homework exercise intended as special birthday-gift and as experiment for my new violin from “the violin project” (with rather remarkable violins from China in price-range NOT “breaking the bank”: try it, they have good enough command of English!)

I had to tackle the following MUSICAL problems:

  •  writing “free rubato notes” in adopting those to the regular measures-scheme as in use in Westeuropean contaminated cultural contexts;
  • to elaborate different settings for different use, which are version 1 with piano and deep violin und version 2 with high violin only, intended for use together with orchestra (plus ANOTHER “free rubato intro” of my own).


PROJECT files (in National Library) – sorry for inconvenience: someone has changed the links, which have been reinstalled 19.Aug.2019

BBWV 137 Come Zigany – 6:06 – set to deep gipsy violin / piano (harmonium/reed) – see BBWV 139 string-orchestra/high solo violin –  from: Imre Kalman: Countess Mariza, 1st mov. no.7, final 1 – audiofile – audiofile Haronium/reed —  audio mp3sheetmusic pdf

BBWV 139 Come Zigany – set to string orchestra and high solo violin – see BBWV 137 deep violin/piano –  audio mp3sheetmusic pdf

BBWV E23 doublenumber – Music – Military – Moksha (Hindu term for liberation from the necessity for rebirth on this planet) – dedication-essay, 56 p. 2019  for BBWV 137 + 139 music-setting on “Come Zigany” set to Gipsy violin, Imre Kalman, Countess Maritza – notified to NPTEL Madras/Chennai, India,  MOOC free online course “Appreciating Carnatic Music”, author Lakshmi Sreeram –  read onscreen google books download pdf google books

E33 On Hungarian Gipsy music and her relation to Indian  – – Raga (corner stones of new thesis)(Preface Essay – not finished )


The real surprise with this homework however is, that I for FIRST TIME during UPDATING research on GIPSY-origins form INDIA –  see “Mutter Indien“, Roma-Service, Austria – and especially around the North-East-Indian region of the “Le-Corbusier”-town “Chandigarh”  – German WikiEnglish Wiki – neighbouring the regions of Radjastan and of Himachal Pradesh and namly federal state Punjab (directed to better known in Europe KASHMIR) could form a NEW THESIS in which I could show STRONG CONNECTIONS between this piece of music from “Hungarian gipsy” with SEVERAL characteristics of INDIAN RAGA – which – to my restricted  knowledge – never has been tried before!

To have an ultrashort update in HISTORY of Roma origins, I may quote here from ROMBASE-Database of University of Graz, Austria and from Roma-Service, Austria the follwowing essays


tracing Indian RAGA within Hungarian Gipsy –  in “Come Zigany”, Countess Mariza, composer Imre Kalman 1924 – QUESTIONS (from below file 2 BBWV 137.2 – file 1 BBWV 137.1)

Raga-problem 1

Raga-problem 2 (tonal center?)

Raga-problem 3 (2 neighbouring tone-plateaus)

Raga-problem 4 (neigbouring tone-plateaus)

Raga-problem 5 (scale plus single-tone repetitions)

Raga-problem 6 (chromatics plus single-tone repetition)

Raga-problem 7 and 8 (scale-similar chromatics in accompagniato)


In other words: I will have to present these NEW FINDINGS as SEPERATED RESEARCH ESSAY to the international audience – in which, I will add some AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL notes, which may be illustrative to a subject most Europeans and especially the Christians of TODAY shy away, which is REINCARNATION, which however among the predecessors of Christians from the ESOTERIC JEWS (and Chassidim, that once were living partly “under theHungarian crown”) was known under the keyword of “gilgul“, which has some connections to the PYTAGOREAN idea of “wandering of souls” …. It – by the way – is interesting, that the word “RAGA” in India has a DOUBLE MEANING and is NOT RESTRICTED to music, but has to do with “illusion of Maya” and “attraction – rejection” especially of DESIRES and FACTORS OF CONDITIONED APPEARENCE leading to “bad karma” or “good karma”, so that RAGA could become a connotation of “bakthi (yoga)” as special branch of “karma yoga” connecting “raga” with “Bhajan” devotional singing.



During work and research I had to learn, that the TODAY situation of Gipsy music in Hungary itself shows a sadly decline, very near to DYING FROM FORGETTING. They have one special Talentum-Music-school left there for the BEST only, where absolvents however afterwards find no jobs in Hungary and have to emigrate to the great orchestras in New York, London and Tokyo. This at first glance STRANGE phenomene of Gipsy music fading away in Hungary since 1990 is not only a result from breakdown of the socialist-communist STATE ALIMENTATION for the Kodaly- music-education-system (since 1948)  and of financial shortages among owners of restaurants, of which once about 60 alone in Budpest had a Gipsy-banda, and it is not only the impression, that tourists might  not appreciate Gipsy sound any longer, but a really earnest factor is, that LEARNING GIPSY MUSIC UNTIL TODAY needs ORAL TEACHINGS – and if this line of ORAL TEACHING among Gipsies themselves is broken, how could she become reestablished or reinforced?

We read:

“Die Gypsy-Musik der Roma stirbt aus

Die Gypsy-Musik ist aus der ungarischen Kultur nicht wegzudenken. Vor 20 Jahren noch waren die traditionellen Klänge überall in Budapest zu hören. In mehr als 60 Lokalen wurde die ungarische Volksmusik Csárdás von den Roma gespielt.

Heute verbannen viele Restaurants die Kapellen aus ihren Läden, die Touristen fühlen sich durch sie gestört und die Besitzer wollen Geld sparen. So spielen die großen Künstler immer öfter auf der Straße, auch die des berühmten 100-köpfigen Gypsy-Orchesters. In der Innenstadt verdienen sie sich ein paar Euro als Straßenmusiker.

Eine in der Welt einzigartige Schule kämpft in Budapest unermüdlich gegen den Untergang der Gypsy-Musik. In der Talentum-Schule unterrichten berühmte Lehrer wie András Suki den Nachwuchs.

Nur die Besten werden hier aufgenommen, aber in Ungarn finden sie auch nach der strengen Ausbildung keine Arbeit. Sie gehen in die berühmten Orchester in New York, London oder Tokio. In Budapest ist ihre Musik heute nicht mehr populär.” source: Roma in Budapest, chapter: Die Gypsy-Musik der Roma stirbt aus; in: planet wissen / ARD-TV, author: Mommsen, Eva –  URL


Unfortunately it is inevitable to mention even here, what the GERMAN NAZIS did in MASS-MURDERING SINTIS and ROMA, which I really cannot simply skip, because I in age of 65 eventually “accidentally found” the information, with documentary proof, that my mother – because of Jewish genes from the French family-side – has survived TWO NAZI-Concentration-Camps. So I had suspicions of NAZI-involvment in my own life SINCE DECENNIA, I decided, to choose for all my music-works as STANDARD language ENGLISH, such avoiding the language of the MURDERERS and EVILDOERS (collecting “bad karma” INDEED) , which were as UNEDUCATED and as ILLITERATE and AS STUPID, as NOT to know nor detect, that they in KILLING THE SINTI and ROMA simply killed their OWN RELATIVES, because GERMANS of today and Indians (of today) and Persians/Iranians INDEED are CLOSE relatives, as was disclosed since 200 years of  research in socalled “Indo-European-Language” with overwhelming evidence.

It is by the way interesting the following: The today Indians came down the Himalayas, so that the rest of the “original” BLACK Indians, the Drawidas and Tamils, was forced to today South India (Tamil Nadu) and Sri Lanka/Ceylon. In former decennia they thought, that those new arrivers to the INDIAN SUBCONTINENT were related somwehow to the “Scythes”, mentioned in antique Greek sources, and living in the wide graslands from the Ukraine and  the  Caspian Sea to MONGOLIA. But Andrew Collins in 2018 – The Cygnus Key, book and video –  –  published a NEW thesis, that back to 20.000 and more years the ALTAI-Mountains were a CENTER OF SPREADING for several cultures, where they recently found the really HUGE megaliths of the region of the CAVE OF DENISOVA. (See as well: page-title “The Cygnus Mystery” in “biblioteca pleioades” URL Andrew Collins for instance thinks especially, that GÖBEKLI TEPE, DENISOVA (Altai) and EGYPT  – PLUS THE NORTH-POLE STAR-CONSTELLATION of CYGNUS are “somehow” related …

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- *1953 in Bremen / Germany - since decennia in Neuss / Germany - classical composer (registered since 2005) - scientific freelance writer - registered to German National Library "Deutsche Bibliothek", search "Bruno Buike", with 246 items in 2013 1996-97 - 5000 qm Rekultivierung Obstwiese mit Kleintierhaltung 2004/05 - 3 Wochen Gartenpflege in einem orthodoxen Kloster in Deutschland 2009 - 3 Wochen Katastrophenhilfe Einsturz des Kölner Stadtarchivs 2011 - journey to Przemysl/Poland - and learning of basic Polish vocabulary and reading/pronounciation 2013 University of Tokyo - Conditions of war and peace - Coursera - Certificate 2013, December - after 15 years in mainly Russian-orthodox and Greek-orthodox affairs return to Roman-Catholic church 2014 National University of Singapur, Conservatory - Write like Mozart. Introduction to classical composition - Coursera Certifikate "with distinction"
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